What about the rights of carrots?

The question from carnists to vegans about plant sentience is common but not at all reasonable, it is never an argument. But let’s assume for argument’s sake that research one day shows that plants, although completely devoid of a central nervous system, can feel pain too, the alternative to eating at all is suicide. Animals are sentient without a doubt (including fish and anyone with a nervous system), we’ve known this since forever but they are being bred as ‘food’ and for cruel experiments; besides, they are fed plants.

Suppose one want to consider the sentient death toll of harvesting plants (land use, insect death, harm to small animals and waterways): all animals eat plants too, the corpses that carnists chew on did, as do we (carnists included or they’ll get very ill sooner rather than later) – our digestive system has evolved for and requires sustenance in the form of plant food. We can get everything we need from plants and bacteria, there is no synthetic zero-carbon footprint alternative. Does it feel icky/wrong/cruel to kill an animal but not to walk on lawn or pick a fruit off a tree because we’re anthropomorphising and projecting feelings on non-humans? No, but if you have any doubts, it’s yet another reason to stop reproducing and campaign for everyone to do the same.

Let out your inner carnivore, use your canines.
Let out your inner carnivore, use your canines.

I will never look at this picture in the same way again (after my last post, it brings back a similar drawing in the video). Off-topic: dear readers, please let me know if text-conversion fails to capture the description which I always insert, not only the caption.


Women as meat, literally…

I wrote this before I heard of Jyoti Singh’s (Delhi gang-rape victim) passing. After a most draining debate on a forum, I’m unable to discuss her painful story for now and you’ll find current analysis elsewhere (one under my ‘likes’ on the right).

I stumbled upon the following and thought I’d begin by addressing this extreme of the kyriarchy. The context can be found in this less graphic and somewhat different description  with more general information (I’m not sure it’s less graphic but the photos are linked not embedded and one can skip graphic descriptions) or this video with strong bias (I recall picking up in a single VICE article I had to read, racism, misogyny and the strangest views on homosexual sex*) – the above is not sexually explicit but maybe I should maybe add a TRIGGER WARNING for unusual criminality, talk of violence, some references to sex and pornography/rape culture. One can also read the following without context:

There is no mention of what sex education the idolized (bragging murderer turned pornstar) protagonist had initially although in the video, he complained that his parents didn’t speak about sex. Now that’s the case of every Asian probably, especially of that generation, and does it make for higher incidences of rapists, perverts (bar those who consume mainstream porn) or cannibals? He had access to the culture of sexualisation of foreign women (western pornography?), zoophilic experiences (he admits in video) and he comes from a wealthy family. Going by Murderpedia, this means from early in his youth that everything is permitted and he’s likely to get away with murder. In a recent survey on US campuses, 35% admitted they would rape someone if they can get away with it. In the interview, Sagawa says he was charged with attempted rape and never confessed to have cannibalistic urges before he left Japan to attend the Sorbonne. After he killed, raped and ate parts of Renee, who’s worth to him seemed only increased in death**, he seems to still have no regret – the only indication, if any, is that he was allegedly relieved to have been arrested temporarily.

To add insult to loss of life, he only served 2 years in prison in France and he has been free ever since he was deported to Japan. He got paid a lot for interviews (!) and draws cannibalist-inspired hentai for a Lolita manga (which shouldn’t even exist, to not encourage the sexualisation of young girls and the porn/rape/cannibalistic culture around them) and nude portraits. He doesn’t seem to have difficulties getting visas to travel the world with young attractive women who don’t know his past, and allegedly still talk to him after they find out. He stars in porn and the one where he described the cannibalistic murder in details to the porn actress had very high sale figures. He claims sex has kept his cannibalistic urges at bay but that now he’s impotent and wants to be murdered.

On the theory of “sex” as crime prevention:

I can’t seem to make video start at 38min39s (hyperlink) and embed it so it seems to have the whole episode embedded.

Cannibalism in his case is a sexual fetish or a necrophiliac rape and eating fetish which I’m not sure can be linked to sex. It can however be linked to rape culture which equates sex with domination over the objects that are women, and to porn culture which assimilates the latter and glorifies Issei Sagawa as the above video does.

I can’t copy paste from, or link specifically to What Makes Them Do It on Murderpedia but I’d like to comment further on the parallel between Omophagia and Zoophagia. Zoophagia is the idea of ingesting “increasingly sophisticated lifeforms to improve one’s own” (should it start with humans rather than flies then? There is substantial proof that no species can be less sophisticated than we are). The psychopathology itself is based on the belief that there is a hierarchy with lower and higher animals and that humans are at the top of the food chain, the same belief that encourages the enslavement, breeding, torturing and killing of animals on a massive scale. This is similar to the belief in a hierarchy of men’s dominance over women. In the above case, a weak man (as he describes himself) which is devalued by the kyriarchy uses his wealth, privilege and utter sadism to ‘dominate’ women and porn culture enables it, and their government sees absolutely no problem with it. He hasn’t committed any new crimes, after all.


* This was also about women as figurative meat: in a gay club in exotic (to Bruce Labruce, and presumably to readers) Johannesburg, gay guys allegedly attended a strip show of women which involved sex with the women on stage. There was nothing wrong with it (of course!), it was like enjoying a meal, everyone enjoys any kind of sex was his point, he was not joking and even named a real club in JHB, South Africa. His depiction of black people was problematic and so much was wrong with that article which passed as serious opinion-piece.

** Much like non-human meat: animals raised for that ‘purpose’ are seen as commodities, and as valuable mostly in death.

Docu canadien – à voir ou à partager p’tet?

Merci à Cahier Antispécistes  d’avoir partagé ce docu en entier ou en parties, on n’a pas encore regardé (moi non-plus) mais ça devrait servir à plus d’un.

LA FACE CACHÉE DE LA VIANDE et un grand merci à Elodie Acuri, qui a mis en extrait de quelques minutes pour une meilleur diffusion (ci-dessous).

La face cachée du boeuf

La face cachée de la viande : aspects santé et témoignages

La face cachée du poisson

Les protéines et le végétarisme

La face cachée des oeufs

La face cachée du poulet

La face cachée du porc

Végétalisme et sport de haut niveau

La face cachée du lait

I would add that cows who are not given hormones (and antibiotics because they are over-milked and their teats are diseased – look up the monitoring of levels of pus and blood in milk) and goats, have hormone levels that a lactating mammal has, and which their baby processes differently. Beyond weaning age and puberty (!!!), any breast-feeding obviously affects hormone-levels in humans. Organic milk from “happy cows” carries risks too. Of course “happy” cows and goats had at least their male babies killed so there can be more for casomorphine-addicted humans. Cows have been genetically modified to produce more milk than they would and they are also given growth hormones.

The myth that we need milk is funding the medical industrial complex. I’m not selling you plant-milk, I even buy mine from businesses that sell meat and dairy currently, but no one got directly killed for it, no one got raped and no animals were bred and no crops were exported from Africa to feed European cattle while the same countries have people starving (if we still import from the EU) Even if Australia is big enough for growing all animal feed, it’s high time useless industries that are wasteful give back aboriginal land and give land back to wildlife. Other islands certainly shouldn’t be helping them exploit sentient beings for profit.

If you watch the documentary linked herein, you’d also learn that vit D in the milk is obtained from sheep, it is added to milk to counter the loss of calcium that milk consumption generally causes.

Our Compass

Based on a work athttp://www.learnstuff.com/got-milk/.

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Eggs… and Ellen

What I find often absent from discussions is the little known fact that laying depletes the hens of calcium and shortens their lifespan, and that if they hadn’t been de-beaked they would crack open their infertile egg themselves to eat it. The easiest or best method of feeding them calcium is to feed their own eggs to them (Peaceful prairie video starts with that in action.) If one has other carnivorous animals to feed who benefit from animal protein (unlike humans) and you decide that is more cost-effective then that’s not a selfish choice but it’s still detrimental to the hen.

Laying hens’ wild cousins lay about 20 eggs a year in the spring, then their bodies get a rest. Nearly all layer hens today have been bred, over many years, to lay up to ten times or more eggs than they would in nature. This takes a toll on their bodies, and increases the risk of reproductive cancers.

We have no innate craving for eggs. We don’t salivate when we see a clutch of robin’s eggs. Within a couple of generations of not eating eggs, we will probably look at chickens’ eggs the same way we look at robins’ eggs – not as something to consume, but as vehicles for new lives, new families.~ Gary Loewenthal

I have provided the source of the quote, from a commenter on a detailed article on hens and the issue. Does Ellen need to explain herself? I can’t find the video anymore, all links of the clip are dead. In short, Ellen Pompeo was on Ellen speaking about her chickens and her coop. Ellen Degeneres revealed that she gets eggs from her neighbours because the chickens are happy, but more importantly she said she wants her own coop one day, to get eggs. Vegans have discussed this proposing various scenarios to condone her but why did no one stress on the fact that it’s even more important for her to justify her desire to get a coop for her desire of eggs? I’ve only seen her website (which has a Go Vegan with Ellen feature) and a couple of episodes of her show ever, the local channel here shows her sitcom instead which I imagine is ancient. I learned during this debate that she is a spokesperson for Covergirl, which perform cruel un-necessary cosmetic tests on animals.

Ellen lost my ‘likes’ (the facebook ones), and I guess this is mostly for her followers, random blog visitors, and anyone who believes there are happy eggs. Like I said elsewhere, if the situation were that Ellen lived on welfare, could not make ends meet and her neighbours, a charity programme or a soup kitchen gave her eggs, or she had to buy eggs over a more expensive alternative (in Scandinavia etc., I imagine eggs may be cheaper than grains because of state subsidy, although grains last way longer; someone may not have cheap veggies as option so could not boycott the state and big stores, to survive) then it would not be contradictory that she calls herself vegan as she’d be trying her best not to aid animal exploitation but her circumstances would dictate to what extent she can avoid harm.